- unless the facilities clearly warrant
such a selection
A permanent site might make the Nationals
on the east coast all the time and make a hardship for westerns. I think
the Nat'l club should help with more of the cost of putting on the nationals.
1) I think it is very important to rotate
the specialty around the country. 2) There is always a problem when hard
and fast rules are implemented. Therefore, to the extent that it is possible
to rely on common sense, I think the regions hosting the specialty should
be allowed to vary the "rules" to the extent necessary to insure that they
are able to pull off the event. These are increasingly massive events,
and I know that within each region some clubs will/may have their own petty
grievances with other clubs. I think that when the regions are broken up
into collective areas, it will be necessary to insure that the clubs within
each region are compatible and will be able to work together to insure
a well run specialty.
A national specialty committee could exist
but the site could rotate between regions.
A permanent site has it's benefits (stability
and consistency), but I feel that by rotating the site, it would allow
more flexibility in the planning and would allow people who would never
be able to travel across country an opportunity to attend the Specialty
when it came to their region. It would also help to keep the Nationals
on a national level, rather than becoming a glorified Regional Specialty.
A permanent site may not be possible,
we have lost many a site after a specialty including the Marriott here
in Kansas City and the YMCA in Colorado.
A plan such as I have selected will require
that regional clubs work together. It appeared that Heartland and SE Wisconsin
did very well at combining their efforts this year. I hope that all the
work behind the scenes went as well as the final result that I saw at Lake
Lawn. If there are clubs whose members are not as easy going as our dogs
and who can not exhibit the teamwork we strive for in the obedience and
draft rings, then problems are bound to occur. If that happens, I would
hope that there would be a facilitator at the National level who could
remind them to emulate their dog's attitudes and work ethic. That National
"specialty advisor" or "specialty counselor" could help groups by providing
a workbook of sorts of what needs to be done with a time-table. If each
group made notes of things that worked or didn't work for them and why,
there would be no need for folks to re-invent the wheel in planning each
specialty. I wouldn't want to see such a thing used as a crutch or automatic
model each year because I like the regional flavor that each group brings
to our specialties; but some guidance would be very helpful for folks who
have never planned an event of this magnitude. Cost is also a factor high
in the minds of clubs. Many can not afford to support a National Specialty.
That is why I like the idea of geographic regions whose clubs work together.
Computers and e-mail can make this a much easier task than it used to be.
Thank you for this forum for our input.
Again...BID IT OUT...there are cities
who would find a place for us with the amount of money our people spend.
We would probably be good for about $250,000 to any local economy
Although I like the idea of a permanent
specialty committee in each region, I think the clubs would do better to
choose their own method of determining their specialty committee in order
to ensure cooperation of clubs.
Always an added benefit of going to the
specialty is seeing different parts of the U.S. I enjoy going to different
places each year. There are some sites I would not mind returning to, but
for the most part, I would like different sites each y
ANY person who jeopardizes the use of
a specialty site by trashing a hotel room should have their name well publicized
in as many different venues as possible, and be banned forever from participating
in another Specialty. This behavior is the most callous disregard for the
club, other dog owners, and reflects poorly on the breed and the club.
It will also tend to make it impossible to have any sort of permanent site
selection more than any other single cause.
As I mentioned - two or three sites as
permanent locations with rotating club sponsorship.
At last count, there are over 150 breeds
recognized by AKC, many of which have regional/national clubs who host
regional/national specialties. If we haven't done so already, I believe
it would be prudent to send this questionnaire (or one similar) to find
out about their practices. Afterall, why reinvent the wheel? Best regards
and good luck! Phil and Susan Henderson Yorba Linda,
BMDCA should consider contracting professional
assistance just to find sights large enough with easy access for our specialty
show. For example I live in NYS. I have no idea of a location large enough
& will to hold a BMD specialty show.
BMDCA should provide a Specialty Advisor/Coordinator
as a resource for those members organizing and running the National Specialty.
Club partnerships will likely be the best
way to get more of the smaller regional clubs involved in running a specialty
they would not dream of tackling on their own, but we should not exclude
the larger clubs from hosting on their own if they so desire. More and
more we are also seeing individuals from different regions volunteering
for specific tasks. This should also be welcomed and encouraged. Many specialty
tasks can be planned long distance, such as trophies, auctions, raffles,
Considering the BMDCA parent organization
on the whole does very little for regional clubs, it seems a bit presumptuous
to sound inferential that regional clubs will be "selected" (Implying indirectly...forced?)
without their consent in a rotation plan to host, or help host a National
Different sites add to the fun of a specialty.
If you find a site that is perfect for a specialty then don't restrict
the use to one time. That will only make the following years more difficult.
Planning for a large event like this from far away could be very difficult
so I think the host club should be able to have it close to their home
for the purpose of better planning. If not, all must expect and accept
details to fall thru the cracks.
Do to family and work obligations as well
as travel limitations (problems with flying dogs) it may not be possible
to travel widely to Specialties. Rotating them throughout the country would
give more people the opportunity to attend a Specialty when it is in their
area of the country. Although "core" membership may not change much from
year to year, general membership comes and goes and assigning a Specialty
Committee may stress "core" membership more than necessary. Putting on
a Specialty is almost a full time job and you may be hard pressed to find
members willing to take on that responsibility. On the other hand, as a
member of a local all breed club and it's show committee, I understand
better than many the ins and outs of putting on a show. Our local club
tends to use the same people for the committee heads every year as they
are familiar with the needs and requirements of the show and are thereby
better able to fulfill the positions completely and efficiently. I don't
feel you can assign a responsibility as large as a Specialty to a club
and hope they come through with a successfull show. Clubs need to be interested
and willing to place all of this work into a show. Is there a Specialty
Show "Guide" that outlines for each Specialty giving club the proceedures
for giving a Specialty, include necessary time lines? Most people do not
understand how far in advance things need to be done to fulfill AKC requirements
and to be able to get things to the Superintendent so they are mailed in
a timely manner. Does each successive club add comments and suggestions
for the next club. I worked on setting up and printing the 2000 Specialty
Planning Booklet. As I am in the printing business I was well versed in
getting the printing set up and done. However, less experience people could
possibly use a sound guideline, complete with previous clubs trials, successes
and failures. Having an on-line spot where each successive club could go
to down-load the information may make getting this information easy. And
each Specialty giving club could go to the site after their show and post
comments, concerns, etc in the form of a post show report, perhaps in a
questionaire format. I hope I haven't been too verbose. Thank you for permitting
me the forum to express my opinion. Marian Fenlon
Encourage the show committee to use a
new site. (Rotation within the region, if possible)
Everyone should have the opportunity to
go to a national specialty. Having them held in various cities across the
country makes this more possible then having them at the same location
Finding a show site will always be the
most difficult task no matter what region it is in. At some time in the
future we will probably have to accept a site that will not fit all of
our needs and be spread out in different locations. As the number of entries
continues to increase so will the difficulty of finding a large enough
location for us all.
Finding a site within a specific region
that suitably accommodates the number of people and dogs is becoming much
more difficult to acquire. The National Specialty has become more a family
vacation and therefore it is thought that accommodations must be made for
varying forms of entertainment and sightseeing. While this is very nice,
isn't the real purpose of the Specialty to meet with other Berner folks,
look at dogs and talk dogs?
Going to different sites and areas is
part of the fun of going to a specialty, especially for families where
the specialty is a vacation...also, some part of the nation are more convenient
than others, for everyone...I liked the rotation across the country.
Good sites are literally few and far between.
Many hotels/resorts don't want to host a weeklong convention of 300+ large
furry dogs and their people. This is one reason why the Specialty should
be hosted by a region, with different clubs cooperating in putting it on:
there may not be a suitable site in each Club's local area.
Have several regional specialties each
year; smaller, simpler more manageable shows with fewer activities at each.
Concentrate on activities that the dog was bred for, not what the owners
were bred for--like spending money and shopping. Each year the current
single specialty tries to outdo the previous one.
Have the Specialty end on Saturday not
Have you contacted other National Clubs
and asked how they do their specialties? I am sure they would help and
tell us what works for them and what doesn't. But I do think the specialty
should be in all parts of the country so that everyone gets a chance to
see the best we have to offer.
HAVING A PERMANENT SITE IS BORING!! WE
HAVE APPRECIATED ALL THE SPECIALTIES WE HAVE ATTENDED IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS
- COLORADO SPRINGS, ATLANTA, & ESTES PARK. ISN'T THAT PART OF WHAT
MAKES A SPECIALTY SPECIAL?!
Having the Specialty held in various areas
of the US allows more opportunities for individuals to attend. Sometimes
the distances are too far and expenses to get there too high.
host to select site. I dissagree that
they cannot be used twice. If they worked well once, they should be able
to use the site again
Hosting a national specialty is a LOT
of work. (I know, I helped with two of them.). The BMDCA should not dictate
procedures to the regional clubs and should not force any club to do it.
If a club does not have the manpower and/or the interest, enthusiasm, and
willingness to take this task on, and hosting a specialty is not supported
by the majority of the members of that club, it could conceivably destroy,
or at least severely weaken, that club. The health of the regional clubs
is more important than having a specialty each year!
I also think a permanent site per region
is an option. I do not like options 1 or 4 - only one permanent site, or
saying that sites cannot be re-used. I can see some practical reasons for
re-using sites (although this might diminish the "vacation aspect"). So,
I feel the above option is the most flexible.
I am exceedingly grateful to all the folks
who have worked to put on the Nationals I have attended.
I believe if a site is good, then it should
I believe regional is the best option.
I work with a group now that rotates their meetings east, middle and western
regions. It works well and gives everyone a meeting close to home. I think
especially since we are talking about people possibly always having to
fly a dog to enter events you would alienate part of the club if you chose
1 permanent location. Some would never get to show their veterans for sure.
I believe that the excitement of a national
show is the different sites. The show should be rotated geographically
with a host club combining with other area clubs. The site itself should
be chosen by the host club. If the site was used before and it was an excellent
site, use it again, if not, find a new one.
I did not attend this yearâ€™s specialty.
The location was hard to get to and the shortage of rooms a factor.
I don't mind reusing sites within regions
but I would like to see rotating regions so everyone can feasibly get to
one national or another. I also think it is important to rotate the regions
so we get to see the variations and representations of what's taking place
in our breed.
I don't show my Berner at this point,
but am very likely to so sometime in the future with a Berner that I own.
Having a specialty close to where I live would help in my eventually showing
a Berner of mine.
I favor a standing National Specialty
Committee, under the direction of the Specialty Coordinator(s, that includes
the Show Chairs and Assistant Chairs of the previous three years specialties,
as well as knowledgeable and resourceful individuals chosen by the Coordinator(s)These
individuals Would be available via the website or directly and would serve
as a major resource for each new Show Committee. If a National Specialty
committee would actually take over Specialty management, the pool of talent
and knowledge would rapidly shrink; Responsibility builds pride in accomplishment.
I believe Specialties should be assigned on a regional basis according
to membership numbers. If more than one club is present in a region a consortium
of the clubs should plan the Specialty, but ONE CLUB should have the primary
administrative responsibility and authority.
I feel flexibility will help. Such as
allowing consortiums and individual clubs, site usage as can be attained
with multiple usage, providing we don't loose any more nice sites. I find
it hard to go to Specialties in the east but am glad to have them in closer,
from the center of the country to the west. So I feel we should have the
same opportunity to go to as many specialties as we can as those in the
east. Though a permanent site would give stability, it wouldn't provide
variety and interest (for more than the first couple of years) and though
it would be advantageous to some, it would be disadvantageous to others
all the time. A permanent committee would be harder to maintain-even with
rotations so no one gets burned out, it would be easiest for those close
and would limit the wider range of volunteers available. These are my opinions
and thoughts and why I answered the way I did.
I feel our national specialty should not
be held indoors in the middle of a city, in a high rise surrounded by cement.
Our dogs are too large and the numbers too great for this type of facility.
Rhode Island was great and so was Wisconsin.
I feel very strongly that the specialty
be held in different regions every year. I realize how difficult it is
to host a specialty but if it rotates and every one know the rotation preparations
and plans can be made well ahead of time.
I have been to the last five specialties
and I am part of the committee working on 2001. Each Specialty has been
great in its own way, but I can see how a new group struggles to do something
that group has never done before. Many large national organizations have
permanent committees that plan the regular meetings and events. I think
a permanent committee would be a great way to take the learning curve out
of the picture, but then rotate the site to let everyone have equal access.
If there is an area of the country without sufficient volunteer support
to help the permanent committee, then that area can be skipped until membership
support in the region has increased.
I have heard of situations in the past
where we have had great sites and because of policy violations regarding
dogs in members' rooms, we have been unable to return to these sites. I
hope this issue has been strongly addressed and will not impact future
I have only been to 2 national specialties
(1999 & 2000), but I think the organizing clubs did an excellent job
selecting a site and organizing the activities. I would hate to see policy
changes made which would take away each host group's initiative and creativity.
That's one of the things that make the national specialty special.
I just don't think this one can be answered.
As beautiful as it is in Western WA, we don't have one really good site
to use,,,,,,we may some day but for now, nothing, hence we head to the
East side of the state. I also don't think we can set one site as the option
may only be available one time. Thinking out loud again, maybe someone
(the next club or region to do a specialty) needs to really simplify what
the specialty is. I think Arizona did that and I heard it was a wonderful
time. That's a pretty board statement but I think you know what I mean.
I know that national specialties are a
huge amount of work for any regional club. However, I think they need to
be rotated around the country to make it easier to everyone to show, and
especially to attend!
I like the idea of a permanent Specialty
committee in each region. It is hard to re-invent the wheel each time a
region's turn is up. It would be nice to have a base to start from. I think
it would make a lot less work all the way around and a less daunting task
I like the rotation of the Specialties.
Different people get to attend thus different dogs. Also, different vendors
get to attend.
I realize this has been an increasing
concern, especially since the increase of BMD's, however, I would hope
that clubs continue to volunteer, and make it their decision. It won't
be as successful if clubs are demanded to hold specialties.
I really enjoy traveling to different
parts of the country to attend specialties. My husband and I use it as
vacation time. I would hate to see it become "just another show". Each
section of the country has so much to offer, but I also know that some
specialties will be just too far to travel.
I strongly feel that there should be a
standing committee that oversees the Specialty Chair(s), I realize this
is in place..but support is lacking....and that information should be in
print on how a National is run...from the minor groundskeeping to the more
complex issue of fund raising. I think many smaller clubs are concerned
with the great amount of money being used and fear the fundraising. Also
if there is not BMDCA support, with funds and backup of decisions, why
on earth would any club want to host? The National speaks of bank accounts
and CD's, yet gives no incentives to the smaller clubs for hosting such
a large scale event....there had better be a plan to support small clubs
if that plan succeeds (forcing each club to take a National...or we will
be fleeing like rats off a sinking ship. Thanks for reading!!
I think asking for input is a SUPER idea.
I think it is getting to the point where
it is difficult for clubs to find hotel sites which will accommodate a
Specialty show (however desirable it is) and need to start considering
sites such as fairgrounds and convention centers which have held AKC shows
with perhaps more than hotel which are in proximity to each
I think it needs to be by Region on a
rotation basis but after that, you have to hope that the clubs within that
Region will volunteer to do the specialty or that several clubs will get
together to sponsor it cooperatively. I think the sponsoring club(s) have
to want to do the specialty or the quality of our specialty will go to
pot. There has to be enthusiasm on the club's part and not feel likes it's
being shoved down their throat. But, of course, if it's done on a rotating
basis, the region will know years ahead that it is their turn and will
perhaps put some thought into it. I was involved with gardening organizations
for many years and our annual specialty was by region - it worked very
well. It was a lot of work for the sponsoring region as they had to prepare
tour gardens which took several years in advance. I think another option
which might soften this idea is leaving the option available for a region
to pass if they didn't feel they could put on a quality specialty. Just
my thoughts. Good l
I think its best if one yr the national
is held in the west coast area/region and the next the east coast area/region.
I think one of the biggest problem with
hosting the Speciality is the site availability in areas. Most large hotels
with grass areas will not permit dogs. I have seen other National Clubs
hold their shows in parking lots at the host hotels. I truly hope that
Berners will never need to do that. They need to be on grass. Land is getting
sparse and hotels are letting the doggie world intrude on the lawns they
work so hard to keep nice. The Specialties have become too large. We are
fortunate that our wonderful breed does so many activities but it is also
a curse. This means the club needs more people to take on the responsibility
of these activities and committees. Most of the time the reason for forming
different clubs in the same basic region is because of personality clashes.
If clubs can not stay formed because of personalities how would 2 or 3
clubs be able to work together for a Specialty. Most clubs (not just dog
clubs) have a core of people (usually 5 - 10 depending on # of membership
I think that by moving the specialty around
the country we are giving everyone a better chance to attend at least a
few specialties every few years. Myself, I have not been able to make the
east coast specialties , but was able to go to the ca, az and colo. specialties,
and will be able to go next year to Spokane. By moving the specialty around
we have a better variety of entries from different parts of the country.
It is also exciting to travel to a different place each time, even if I
cant always get there.
I think we should try to encourage more
regional specialties. as clubs gain confidence and member experience at
regional specialties they maybe more likely to take on the nationals. Better
direction from the BMDCA specialty coordinators would be greatly appreciated.
Going through this as a consortium has been mind boggling. It is like guess
the right answer until you are wrong game. I would also like to see the
specialty guideline book fine tuned and made user friendly. Have more than
just one person on the BMDCA specialty coordinator position. Have a committee
of committee heads for each required or consistent part of the specialty.
Then recruit help from the local group. Hire some one to do research on
site locations around the country. Make a master list for all to be able
to access. Then clubs won't be so overwhelmed by the size of the task.
I was a swim coach for many years in Alaska
and I answered this questionnaire in the same way that our championship
swim meets were hosted around the state. We were divided into regional
areas and were governed by a State board of directors with annual meetings
much like we are with the BMDCA. This system worked very well in the state
and helped each region and also maintained the best quality meet for Alaska's
I worked with a national non-profit who
had a professional convention team in the national office who worked with
volunteers onsite. For the most part it worked well as long as the volunteers
understood the division of duties. The local clubs volunteered and brought
the event to their region as a service to members in that area. The advantage
was that the event maintained a level of professionalism that we wanted
to present. I think that would be a concern for BMDCA as well. The Club
could consider hiring a part-time convention coordinator. It's a lot of
work for no pay, but there are some nice free benefits in the industry
that might be tempting.
I would choose a permanent site be selected,
however, that would not make it easy for people to go who live on the opposite
side of the country. I feel that if the specialty was held in a permanent
part of the country, we would lose attendance. The same people would attend
year after year, the same vendors would be there year after year. It is
fun to go to the specialty in different parts of the country because new
people attend and new vendors are always there.
I would not prefer a mandatory site (especially
since you can't anyways!). The biggest reason is that who would make the
decision on the final site and there is always a division of the country
that would feel left out (ie: if always in west, then easterners feel left
out and vice versa)
Ideally the regional committee would assist
in locating and working with the sites available. Contacting other breed
clubs for recommendations is a must. Having been active with the 1998 National
Specialty I know how important it is to have an excellent repoir with the
host site. The hotel used was knowledgeable about dog shows and handled
our event with expertise and professionalism that is rarely found.
If a site works and the majority of the
membership is satisfied with it, by all means, if they will have us back,
we should go back. Each time a facility hosts an event like this, they
learn from it and can do a better job the next time!
If everything was set up ahead of time,
Clubs would have a year or two til they knew they'd be hosting the Specialty,
and could really make some nice plans. Rotating the Specialty from one
side of the Country to the other, affords different people the opportunity
to attend the Specialty. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of hard
work that goes in to organizing and pulling off a Specialty...my hat's
off to all who contribute. Hopefully when it comes out this way in two
years, I can do my share. Thank You.
If the decision is made to select a permanent
site, I would hope that it would be centrally located - the Purina site
in St. Louis would seem the obvious choice. While I don't think that is
the best solution, if it comes down to it, that is supposed to be a great
site, and obviously shouldn't be a problem re. permanence.
If there has been a wonderful location
which in my opinion means climate, site, etc. I think it would be nice
to have it there again. I definitely do not think they should be held in
a hot climate. Our dogs are from Switzerland originally and it is just
more fun and also more relaxing to be where it is cool; not hot. I would
never want one held in my area just to keep me from driving so far; let's
think of our dogs.
I'm a new BMD owner, and have not yet
joined a regional club, as I am still checking out my options. I think
that each region should have a permanent specialty committee and that in
each region, that committee should agree to their own method and report
this to BMDCA.
I'm not the one out there soliciting for
a host for the upcoming Specialties, but do we have to do this by assignment?
What happens if a club says "we just can't" and begs off for 2 years? Could
they be allowed to find their own replacement? How about putting together
a list of required events that they must host? Please leave us some leeway
to make our own alliances and decisions within this: Location, Duties,
Participants, Duration, Supporting Activities, etc.
IMO, we cannot lock ourselves into one
site - given the fact that several sites I have looked at recently have
had bad experiences with dog shows.
Interesting ideas. Your survey is a bit
biased. "Have a club volunteer and HOPE (emphasis mine) the specialty happens"?
You cannot force clubs to host the Specialty. Some clubs are small and
others are spread out over large geographic areas. If you select a permanent
location, will BMDCA be the club to put on the show and leave the regional
clubs out of it? Or will the regional club in that area put on the specialty
year after year? What about when some of the smaller regional clubs get
big enough and organized enough to put on a Specialty? Will they just lose
out? The NCA has a rotating specialty. Regional clubs volunteer several
years in advance. It allows the Specialty to showcase dogs from that region,
which perhaps wouldn't make it across country if the show were in a different
location. There hasn't been a problem with clubs not offering to host the
specialty. The problem seems to be finding suitable show sites. The slapping
of the wrist of a BMDCA member that caused BMDCA to lose a wonderful show
site a few years ago doesn't help the show site situation at all. BMDCA
should also be looking at examples from other breeds with similar registration
numbers and a similar number of regional clubs and members. The majority
of BMDCA members and regional club members have attended one or no specialties
and if they went to one show, probably went to the one in their area. Rotating
specialties offer people from different regions of the country to see a
large number of dogs, it allows dogs from that region to be showcased and
it offers showgoers a different experience every year.
It is to the breed's advantage to move
the specialty around. To assume that only one area is competent to host
an event such is this is a poor reflection of the remainder of the club
as a whole. A hosting package that would guide the new committee vs having
them re-invent the wheel each year would be most helpful. Participation
by both new and "old" would allow for growth in the club and prevent the
will of a few to overshadow the whole, an "old boys club" so to speak.
It works for other breed clubs.
Its easy to say that's how we do it, BUT
in years past, it was assumed that specialties would rotate across the
country. I still think that should happen - each BMDCA club member deserves
the right to be able to attend a specialty in their area. Not everyone
has the means or time available to travel across the country to attend
the national. It should be a available to all club members - and not just
the privileged. The national should be a forum for education and by not
making this available to ALL members we have taken away the core foundation
of the club - TO EDUCATE. Also to consider is that not all members are
willing to travel with their dogs by air. Each of us has a special bond
with our dogs and want to "share" our dogs with like enthusiasts. This
forum MUST be kept available to ALL.
Members need to be more considerate of
the sites, so that the sites will be available if needed again. I canâ€™t
believe the number of adults who seem unable to "follow the rules". These
people need to stop spoiling it for everyone else.
Minnesota has at least 3 sites vying for
the show, all of which normally host all-breed shows so that they already
know what they are getting into. Although the local "club" has no members
interested in doing this, there is a consortium of Berner owners ready
and willing to put on a Specialty.
My answer to the first question is based
on there being a permanent place for the Specialty, and a varied committee.
I don't think there should always be exactly the same people doing the
specialty each year. And I think you need to make sure that the committee
has a variety of people on it. i.e breeders, pet owners; that have varying
interests...health, conformation, obedience, draft etc.
My husband and I really enjoy the National
Specialty. Along with all the wonderful dogs, people, and events, we use
it as an excuse to see different parts of the country. Exploring new areas
is part of the fun of the specialty. It would be a shame if that werenâ€™t
the case anymore.
My opinion on this issue shouldn't hold
much weight since I have neither shown my dogs nor attended a national
specialty. However, if one were held in the Salt Lake City vicinity, I
would probably attend (but not show). Thanks --
No matter what is decided there will many
unhappy MTN dog owners, If the game is not in my yard I will not play.
None of the site selections offers that
you have listed. Region to region Nationals give everyone a chance to go
to a National without traveling across country. Also sets a pattern as
to what geographic location the shows will be in. as every 4th. year it
will be in a region close to you....ie..beginning at east coast and going
to west coast assuming that there are 4 regions, then beginning with the
pattern again. This also gives a region the knowledge of "someone needs
to bid on this." The Board should have the right to appoint if no one bids
in a region to be able to hold the regional pattern. I for one am fed up
with the Bernese Nationals price tag......This is a showing of the breed
not a $$$$$$ eater, so even though I have nominated my litter I may or
may not ever go to another one. I have attended one Bernese National and
was VERY put off by the "extra" events. I want to go to a National to look
at dogs and talk with other breeders, not go on hay rides...fishing trips..